Chapter 6780: Incomprehensible Confusion
Chapter 6780: Incomprehensible Confusion
If Chen Xi were here, he would realize that although people like Zhu Tao lack the morals that are required of this era, their understanding of certain things is indeed reasonable. And this seemingly distorted truth is the basis for maintaining a strong external stance even in the chaotic late Han Dynasty.
More importantly, it is not just those people in high positions who think so, but the soldiers who are really on the front line hold this idea - internal fighting is internal fighting, external fighting is external fighting, do your own thing first, and then deal with other people's affairs. As for battlefield affairs, there is no logic of avoiding war because of internal fighting. You can choose to retire because of internal fighting, but since you are on the battlefield, you have to be responsible for your comrades.
Hence the logic that Zhu Tao mentioned before: you can choose not to go to the battlefield and retire directly, or kill Cao Cao, whom you dislike, with one knife, and the right and wrong will naturally become clear.
But since you have chosen to stay here and choose to continue to go to the battlefield, you cannot use these excuses to avoid the war, because the ones who will die as a result of your avoidance of the war are not those people you dislike, but your comrades, the brothers who have entrusted their backs and lives to you!
These people are truly brothers who follow you and fight with you.
"Xu Yuan, your current level is considered one of the best even among the Central Guards. Even if it is the Miracle Legion, as long as you hold the front line and don't collapse directly, there will be no problem. But what about others? How many veterans in this country are above the fifth level of smelting? How many are like you?" Zhu Tao asked coldly as he looked at Xu Yuan who staggered after being slapped.
"Using other people's mistakes to execute your own comrades, is this how you do things?" Peng Hong's face was unusually gloomy, and he even seemed unable to understand why this was happening?
Peng Hong couldn't help but recall his dead elder brothers and his past. Was this how they served in the army before? Damn, when there was no armor before, weren't the strong elder brothers always the ones who rushed to the front and led us weak chickens to fight for our lives, so that we could survive and become stronger, and then provide protection for the brothers behind?
It is precisely because of this kind of inheritance from generation to generation that the Han army was able to suppress the four directions.
Now, looking at Xu Yuan who was fully armed and Zhu Gai who was protected by heavy armor, the anger in Peng Hong's chest grew explosively. What on earth are you doing?
"No wonder, when I came here, I found that there were very few backbones who had been smelted at the first and second levels. It turned out that they died out." Zhu Tao looked at Xu Yuan with murderous eyes and said, "Is this what I taught you when I was your leader? Xu Yuan, tell me, did I teach you this way back then?"
The strong and loyal ones rush to the front to protect the weak, and teach them by words and deeds to let them know what they should do in the future. This kind of inheritance does not require words, but only needs repeated practice. It will allow the weak to grow up before they die, and take over the responsibility to become strong, and then pass it on from generation to generation.
In this way, even though the strong men of each generation may not live to old age, there will always be strong men of each generation who can grow up and take over the inheritance of their predecessors.
To put it bluntly, the old guy who was not the same age as Zhu Tao pretended to be blind and put the limited armor on Jiang Guang, who was only seventeen years old at the time, and put his helmet on Jiang Guang's head. He also achieved great adaptability, disintegrated the demons, and exceeded the limit of will. He was the world's top veteran. What a joke! No matter how talented he was, he died in the Yellow Turban Rebellion.
So Zhu Tao was very angry. We protected you with our lives and allowed you to grow to this level, and then you cut off the hope of those who came after you and let them die on the battlefield?
Xu Yuan wiped the blood from the corner of his mouth. He had no way to refute the argument that it was because of the natural disasters and the curse of the world consciousness that there were very few people who could perform the first and second level smelting during this period, and many unlucky kids simply collapsed back. Because Zhu Tao's words made sense. If a big guy like him didn't fight to the death, how could an ordinary little brother survive the stranglehold of the Saint Death Knight.
The easiest way to reduce the damage caused by the Holy Death Knights to your side is to fight them to the death. With so few people on the Holy Death Knights, they will be destroyed in three attacks at most. As for defense, it is just like cutting flesh with a blunt knife.
"Okay, I admit that this is our fault. We did let the Holy Death Knights go. We will settle accounts with them next, but there is one thing I don't agree with." Xu Yuan stared at Zhu Tao and asked, "If you say so, and we fight to the death with the Holy Death Knights, who will take care of our aftermath? Cao Mengde is totally untrustworthy."
"Is Liang He your brother?" Zhu Tao asked coldly while looking at Xu Yuan.
"Yes." Xu Yuan did not deny the fact.
"They are your brothers, and you also feel humiliated. Why don't you rush forward and wipe out the Cao family? The Cao family is so big, with at least 3,000 people, if not 5,000. If you rush forward that night, even if you can't wipe out the entire family, you can kill most of them. Don't fucking talk about guards. With all of you rushing forward, how many guards are there on the opposite side? If you can't even do this, then you're all humiliated and don't trust the Cao family!" Zhu Tao said to Xu Yuan with a calm expression as if he was killing a chicken.
"Wait, it was Cao Cao who committed the crime, why did they want to exterminate the entire Cao family?" Xu Yuan raised his hand to stop Zhu Tao from asking, "The Cao family didn't commit any irreparable sins."
"Do we need to consider right or wrong when exterminating a whole family? Just kill them all. He can order the extermination of an entire family, so what's the problem with us exterminating his entire family?" Zhu Tao said indifferently, "Well, after exterminating the entire Cao family, you can deal with Ardashir without any worries, right?"
Xu Yuan instantly realized what Zhu Tao meant. You thought he was asking, no, his meaning was very clear. Since it was the Cao family that shook the military foundation of the Han Dynasty, we should go over and destroy the Cao family now. This matter is the responsibility of us old guys. After destroying the Cao family, go with us to destroy Ardashir. If we can survive, we will survive! If we can't survive, we will be worthy of the Han Dynasty.
"I just ask one question, after exterminating the entire Cao family, do you still think that you should not fight for the country? Is there still the so-called avoiding war?" This is what Peng Hong meant. They did not get entangled in right and wrong, nor did they fall into the boring trap of equating trusting Cao Cao with chronic suicide. Their logic was simple and clear - since everyone thought there was a problem, why not exterminate the Cao family.
There is no moral dilemma or crisis of trust. The only thing is that since this is our collective will, we should simply and roughly execute the instigators of the problem, such as collective execution or nine-family execution, instead of using other people's problems to embarrass ourselves and our comrades.
In other words, the group of people represented by Zhu Tao have a very rough understanding of the current problem - either continue to work hard and don't say any nonsense about grievances. If you choose to stay here, you have no right to avoid war, and expanding the territory for the country means risking your life; or just get out of here; or turn around and wipe out the Cao family, clearly letting the country know that we are really dissatisfied, and the country will naturally give an explanation.
You chose to stay here, avoiding war and killing your brothers, and you still say it's because of Cao. What a waste you are.
Hearing this, Xu Yuan shook his head with a complicated expression, then nodded.
"Why don't you destroy the Cao family? On the one hand, you say that the Cao family has caused a crisis of trust among the entire army, leaving you with no choice but to protect yourselves and unable to advance, and on the other hand, you use the Cao family's mistakes to kill your own comrades. What do you mean?" Zhu Tao looked at Xu Yuan and asked, "Don't you know that all the problems will be solved if we kill the entire Cao family at this time? Why don't you kill their entire family?"
"Do you think that if you lead the way, there is a high probability that you will die? Or do you think that we can't kill more than 90% of the Cao family?" Peng Hong looked at Xu Yuan with a grim look and asked, "Is it the former or the latter?"
For Peng Hong, if it was the former, he would kill Xu Yuan and others now. The bad leaders had too much influence on the group. He would kill Xu Yuan and others and then rebuild the foundation.
If it was the latter, then everything Xu Yuan said before was a lie. What about everyone being resentful and no one wanting to work for Cao Cao was all just pretense. He even went a step further and deceived his superiors and subordinates, deliberately creating a gap between the military commander and the grassroots soldiers.
Because if it is really as Xu Yuan said, then all they need to do is raise their arms and the brothers who protect Cao Cao will be the ones who kill Cao Cao. If this cannot be done, then it can only be said that there are more brothers who protect Cao Cao than those who want to kill Cao Cao. If this is the case, what else could it be but a lie?
Therefore, from the perspective of Xu Yuan and Peng Hong, if things really came to the point Xu Yuan said, what else could they say? From ancient times to the present, have soldiers ever lost a military remonstrance as a whole? No, never. Not to mention the Sikong, when the soldiers at the bottom collectively thought there was a problem, the emperor would have to kneel down and listen.
Unlike other groups where the lower classes can be sacrificed, in the military you can use your soldiers like mud, but if you really go against the collective interests of the lower-level soldiers, everyone must die, not to mention the officers. It has been like this since ancient times.
So from the perspective of Zhu Tao and other older generations, if what you say is so serious, why don't you just wipe out Cao Cao's entire family? It's just a matter of convenience.
"And the Liang He incident you mentioned, from what you said, the situation has reached the point where everyone is very excited, so why don't you take action together, but instead let your brother go and die alone?" Zhu Tao looked at Xu Yuan indifferently and asked.
"And why did Liang He only kill Cao Cao's wife and one son? According to what you said, you all knew that Liang He was sharpening his sword and seeing the moonlight, with a determination to die, so why didn't you follow him? Is that really what you call a brotherhood of life and death?" Peng Hong's expression was extremely ugly. He didn't understand Liang He's situation at all, nor did he understand what Xu Yuan and his group were thinking when they watched Liang He go to his death. What kind of stupid comrades were they?
"Liang He said that Cao Cao was a beast, but he was not a beast. His wife and son died, so he killed Cao Cao's wife and son as revenge." Xu Yuan replied with a gloomy face.
"Bullshit." Zhu Tao cursed, "What beast or not? Since you think the other party is a beast, why are you still trying to reason with the beast? Dog bites man, man eats dog, this is the truth! Dog bites man, man bites dog is not the truth. Killing Cao Cao's wife and son is just man bites dog, killing the whole family is the truth!"
"Just because Cao Cao is a bad guy doesn't mean that other members of the Cao family are bad guys." Xu Yuan said in a deep voice. He finally realized the problem. The moral foundations they both held were different.
"To execute the nine clans, do we have to see whether he is a good person? Doesn't it just depend on whether he is a member of the nine clans?" Zhu Tao looked at Peng Hong and asked.
Xu Yuan's words really made Zhu Tao stunned. No one had asked such a stupid question before when exterminating the whole family. After the boss announced the edict, I started to exterminate the whole family. You said you are a good person and don't want to die. Do I care if you are a good person? What I care about is to send you down as quickly as possible.
"You have been torturing yourselves for so long just because Cao Cao is the only bad person in the Cao family, and everyone else is not bad?" After all, Zhu Tao had been the commander of the Central Imperial Guard, and he had seen and eaten a lot. He had also seen some conservative things in Luoyang before, so he quickly understood the logic of Xu Yuan's thinking.
"Stupid bastard!" Peng Hong, who was awakened by Zhu Tao, cursed with a dark face, and then looked at the group of juniors, "Do you all think so?"
Most of the veterans present nodded. At that moment, Peng Hong really felt that there was something wrong with the education of this generation. Based on this logic, Xu Yuan and others' actions were not avoiding the battle at all, but pure tanking. However, the question is, you know that there is a problem with the Cao family, but you don't think about solving the problem, but choose to tank? What's wrong with you!
“Why didn’t you wipe out the entire family? It’s obvious that you all rushed forward and wanted to wipe out the entire Cao family. Even if you failed to wipe out a family of three to five thousand people, at most thirty to fifty people could have escaped, which was also considered the annihilation of the entire family. As a result, because it was said that Cao Cao was a bad guy, but the others were not bad guys, you didn’t take action? And because you didn’t take action, Cao Cao remained your boss, and you fell into the previous vicious circle again…” Bashu also came over at this time, pinched his brows and listened to the explanation of this group of people. He had a feeling that there was something wrong with this generation.
"In the end, all you can do is give up and wait for Cao Cao to fall?" Zhu Tao was a little bit at a loss as to how to describe this generation of veterans. It was obvious that they could just rush up and destroy the opponent and be done with it, but they are really crazy to do this. What are you using your strength for?
"What do you use your power for?" Zhu Tao asked, suppressing the anger in his chest, "To torture yourself, to wait for others to give you alms?"
"Xu Yuan, theoretically speaking, you are on par with me at your current level. The only one who can defeat you here is Zhu Tao. Even if we fight on the battlefield, the two of you are only 40-60. You have such strength that there are only a handful of people in the Central Guards. Why don't you use your strength to fight for your life, but to fight with your brothers? Just lie down?" Peng Hong roared like a lion.
There was no other way. Xu Yuan had taken a muscle-building and bone-strengthening injection. After the second development, he was nearly 1.9 meters tall. The muscle strength was released and adapted to develop a fighting body. With a height of 2.5 meters and the blessing brought by his powerful muscles, it was really too terrifying. Although the previous generation like Peng Hong was a seventh-level smelting, his shortcomings in height and weight were too obvious.
Therefore, in Peng Hong's eyes, Xu Yuan is one of the most outstanding veterans. However, with this level of power, you don't use it to change the things you don't like, but just let it go and wait for others to save it!
Therefore, in the eyes of Zhu Tao and Peng Hong, everything seems very magical. What is our power used for? Don’t you have any idea?
If you are dissatisfied, just speak out. If you are dissatisfied again, put a knife on the opponent's neck. As a member of the army, your comrades, your brothers, when you are collectively dissatisfied, don't kill the opponent and ask the higher-ups to give an explanation. Are you playing rotten? Don't you know that playing rotten will kill people? We are the army, the largest violent organization. What's in your mind?
Morality? Benevolence? That's the stuff of bureaucrats. The weapons in our hands are used to make sense. All the brothers are unhappy. If we don't kill his whole family and let the people above explain to us, what are we waiting for? Waiting to die?
"Because we can't do that." Xu Yuan realized at this time where the problem lay. Zhu Tao and Peng Hong's approach was no longer suitable for this era.
"Why not?" Zhu Tao said with disdain.
"The country doesn't allow it." Xu Yuan shook his head and said.
"There are so many things that the country does not allow. If it was just one country that did not allow it, then why did the Yellow Turban Rebellion break out?" Zhu Tao folded his arms and sneered, "The so-called prohibition is always just a lie. Xu Yuan, have you forgotten the foundation of the army because of your morality?"
"The army cannot have its own stance, but the soldiers can have their own consciousness." Xu Yuan did not hesitate and gave an answer on the spot.
"What have you done?" Zhu Tao asked coldly, "Either the higher-ups give orders and everyone executes them to the best of their ability, or everyone is united in consciousness and executes according to the new will."
Zhu Tao fell silent as he spoke, and Xu Yuan also seemed silent.
"So including those soldiers who died in battle, they actually tend to give up and lie down, right?" Zhu Tao asked with some confusion that he couldn't understand. What kind of stupid situation was this?
"It's everyone who is inclined to do this, not us, which leads to the death of others. We don't want to fight for Cao." Xu Yuan said helplessly, "We all think so, not just us, the backbones who lead the younger generation. This is really the collective will. Everyone is willing to fight for the Han family, not for Cao Cao."
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