Chapter 631: Discussing the Dao

In the sight of Xue Xu, Fan Yang and others, three small boats were launched into the water and slowly rowed towards the empty boat in the middle.

On the boat in the middle, Qin Sheng helped Lu Songli get on the boat.

Xie Zhan also got on the ship, and he brought with him an unfamiliar guard-Ji Zhen. This person is his new subordinate, and his force value is very high.

Zhang Zhongxian's boat was the slowest to reach the shore. There was nothing to be done about it. Zhang Ci was just a scholar with no strength in his hands, so he couldn't paddle as fast as the other two.

On the deck of the ship, there is a long square table.

Among the three parties, Lu Songli, Xie Zhan and Zhang Zhongxian took their seats one after another.

Qin Sheng and Jizhen stood behind Lu Songli and Xie Zhan respectively. Zhang Ci also stood obediently behind his father, not daring to express his anger.

Zhang Zhongxian looked at Lu Songli, Qin Sheng and Xie Zhan and sighed in his heart, they are all the best among people of this era.

Xie Zhan and Lu Songli happened to be sitting across from each other at the long table, and he stared at Lu Songli.

Qin Sheng: "Can we start?"

Xie Zhan said, "Yes, yes, but who starts first?"

Lu Songli: "We don't care."

"Then let Mr. Zhang decide?" Xie Zhan suggested.

Lu Songli: "Okay."

Zhang Zhongxian pondered for a moment, then looked at Xie Zhan, "Thank you, Commander-in-Chief, come first?"

Xie Zhan first said, "Mr. Zhang, I came here this time because I was entrusted by the emperor to ask you to come out and take charge of the overall situation. You know the disease in Dali. The situation is worse now than ten years ago. Dali needs You, the people also need you.”

After he finished speaking, Lu Songli said slowly, "Mr. Zhang, we in Pingzhou also need you. I think it is better to make changes to an old picture than to draw a new one."

Xie Zhan raised his eyes slightly and looked at Lu Songli, "The old picture you mentioned, that is, Dali, once fed thousands of people in Guizhou, but now it is just sick."

These words made Zhang Zhongxian very emotional. Dali was indeed ill.

"Do we have to abandon it because it is sick? Just like our parents, do we have to abandon it when they are old and frail?"

Lu Songli raised her eyebrows when she heard this, secretly changing her mind?

"First of all, Dali is just a dynasty, not our parents."

"Secondly, it is not only sick, but also old. Life and death, illness and death, the changing of seasons, are natural laws, and so are the establishment, rise and fall of dynasties."

Xie Zhan asked her, "Don't Pingzhou have the same problems that arise in Dali? Even if they don't happen now, won't they happen in the future? Don't solve problems when they arise, but give up. Is this Governor Lu's way of doing things?"

"This is a good question. It is a very complicated issue at the national level." Lu Songli commented on Xie Zhan, "Xie Zhan, you are just the commander-in-chief of Dali's army. You are not qualified to do so." I sit here to discuss the governance of the country. Now, I give you this opportunity."

Even if you now control the court and are almost a regent, so what? Do you dare to speak out? The name is not justified and the words are not justified.

Xie Zhan's face darkened. Her words were unpleasant, but they were also true. Once he was no longer the master of Dali, he would always be lower than her.

Qin Sheng looked at Lu Songli with shining eyes. He liked Li Li's look very much. Yes, that's it, hit Xie Zhan mercilessly!

Zhang Ci didn't dare to breathe even though he was out of breath. He felt too oppressive standing next to him.

"Now, let me answer your question just now..."

Lu Songli organized her words to answer his question.

She would not naively think that there would be no corruption in Pingzhou. Pingzhou was now in a period of expansion and rapid development.

This time brought huge benefits to Pingzhou. From top to bottom, almost most people in Pingzhou enjoyed the dividends brought by the development during this period.

Therefore, everyone is very active and working hard.

In the future, when Pingzhou reaches a certain stage of development, or when the expansion is completed, it will reach a certain limit, which also means that the period of rapid development has stopped.

At this time, it is necessary to rectify Pingzhou from top to bottom and purge the team, so that Pingzhou can remain strong.

This requires talents like Zhang Zhongping.

To put it bluntly, Pingzhou is now in a period where everyone is working hard to make the pie bigger. It doesn’t matter if someone eats it secretly at this time. Because the benefits gained by Pingzhou are much more than those stolen.

But when the pie is almost done, if those sneak eaters don't restrain themselves, they will be punished!

This is a plan for dealing with the upper level.

When that period comes, there will also be problems at the bottom level.

"People are naturally divided into rich and poor, depending on their ability. In Pingzhou, some people live well and some live poorly, but we will not exploit and force people to the point where they can no longer survive."

"We in Pingzhou are committed to protecting the right of the people under our jurisdiction to survive. We will not let the people work hard but cannot survive. This is why I came to ask Mr. Zhang. It is always better to prevent problems than to remedy them afterwards. friendly."

After hearing what Lu Songli said, Xie Zhan was stunned.

But he quickly grasped another point, "It goes around and around again, it's a cycle. If we don't try, how can we get out of this cycle?"

Lu Songli replied, "It is inevitable to replace the old with the new. Even if it is reincarnation, at least every reincarnation is progress."

Xie Zhan said quickly, "This is our difference. Mr. Zhang, this is an opportunity. If the innovation is successful, it may not be able to provide a new idea for latecomers. Even if a new force emerges to replace Dali in the future, there is no need to fall into the same cycle. In the short-term cycle, it is beneficial to the people. "

This debate is not a simple debate, but a collision between the two sides regarding their choice of path and their governance philosophies.

Zhang Zhongxian listened very carefully.

Lu Songli asked back, "Everything you did was just to protect the interests of you and your family. Now you want the people to pay for you to test this new idea?" Even if Xie Zhan's idea is beneficial to the people in the future, No matter what, he makes the common people suffer now.

"No, that's not the case." Xie Zhan collected his thoughts and said, "Dali's overall strength is definitely stronger than Pingzhou. Pingzhou is just a strong branch that replaces the main branch of Dali. After the reform, wealth will be redistributed , Dali’s national power will return to its peak, and Pingzhou will be pacified soon.”

"It's the lesser of two evils. If Mr. Zhang joins Pingzhou, it will only intensify and prolong the internal fighting between the two parties. The longer the internal fighting lasts, the more miserable the people will be. It's just a waste of national power."

"Both the Emperor and I want to end this internal fighting situation as soon as possible, and then let the people recuperate. Please consider it carefully, Mr. Zhang."

Zhang Zhongxian also knows that the harm caused by war to the people is unspeakable. The longer the war lasts, the more miserable the people will be.

Lu Songli smiled playfully, wasting national power in vain? Does it mean that they can't make Pingzhou a climate?

"Emperor Taizu of Dali led three hundred soldiers to kill the prefect in an uprising. At that time, he never thought about establishing a country."

"Speaking of wasting national power, the Dali imperial court abandoned nearly a million people in Liangzhou and Liangzhou in the north, so what can we say? At that time, it was abandoned like worn out shoes, and now it is pitying the national power?"

"Song Mo can't be the master of this world. What's wrong with being the one who is capable? This country wasn't named Song before."