Chapter 1069 Military product line?

The model cannot be specified, but the parameters can be provided.

This outrageous situation completely made Ren Bingda feel helpless.

In fact, as an engineer of Gaofa Group, he was not particularly familiar with the situation of SeA650, and it was impossible for him to make decisions for others on such a critical matter.

But considering that he was still in someone else's office, he couldn't act too confused, so he had to pretend that "everything is under control":

“Technically, we can provide a customized permanent magnet power generation system as long as you can provide the relevant parameters, and because the reliability of the entire technology has been proven on the SeA650, if you wish, you can even consider not installing mechanical backup to further reduce the weight and the number of parts.”

Hearing this answer, Luo Luo and the other two on the opposite side showed joy on their faces almost at the same time.

Among them, Panos Watson directly took out a document that had been prepared on the table:

"Then this accident investigation report..."

But the spell was quickly interrupted by Ren Bingda:

"But without specific model information, it is difficult for us to estimate the future potential of this cooperation..."

The meaning is very clear. We are worried that you British people will dig out something from the pile of old papers that few people will use, and then just build a few or a dozen units symbolically and send us off.

For a century-old manufacturer like Rolls-Royce, this kind of concern is very necessary.

After all, you have no idea how many ancient or medieval aircraft there are in the world that still need their after-sales service.

Watson was stunned for a moment, then he looked at Roger Eleanor not far away, and quickly guessed Ren Bingda's concerns:

"Regarding this, we can guarantee that the initial order quantity of this model will not be less than 500 units, and the lifetime production will not be less than 1500 units. In addition, in addition to the hardware part of each unit, we will also pay you the cost of the solution itself based on the production volume."

This condition is considered quite good.

It was so good that Ren Bingda even found it hard to believe.

After all, the core of the permanent magnet power generation equipment, that is, the non-contact magnetic bearing, is actually produced in the UK itself.

Judging from the other party's mysterious attitude, this is probably a model that is more sensitive than the Trent 900. It is unlikely that the entire system will be manufactured in China and then exported.

In the middle, it must be transferred and laundered.

Or simply produce it in the UK, with China only providing some parts.

In short, profits at the hardware level are bound to be discounted.

The main benefit is probably the cost of developing the plan.

Now the other party has proactively proposed not to make a one-time deal on design, but to charge according to shipment volume. Considering the expected output of 500-1500 units, this is undoubtedly a solution that is beneficial to China.

Generally speaking, this requires suppliers, especially solution providers, to negotiate with each other.

Of course, no matter how good the conditions were, Ren Bingda could not make the decision on the spot. He had to say a lot of nice words and then said that the matter was not within his authority and needed to be handed over to his superiors at home for the decision.

This is not the first time that Rolls-Royce has cooperated with China. Looking at the tone of Ren Bingda's statement, it knew that this was not a delaying tactic, so there was no further insistence. It just repeatedly told Ren Bingda to improve efficiency. Both sides are now in the same boat. If the entire Trent 900 plan is affected, it will be a lose-lose outcome.

However, Ren Bingda has not been just staying at Rolls-Royce in recent days.

This level of PUA has no effect on him:

"I heard that... your negotiations with Airbus have been restarted, so this report shouldn't be so urgent, right?"

This sentence hits the point directly.

Watson and Bodie both looked embarrassed.

After hesitating for a moment, the former had to forcefully make up his mind:

“Although the immediate risk has been resolved, if the accident investigation remains unresolved for a long time, there will still be problems when entering the mass production stage.”

"Especially before the A380's maiden flight, we and Airbus need to review each other's relevant documents... Although due to the tight schedule, in most cases we just glance at the list of documents, but if they find that an accident investigation lasted for several months or even more than half a year, they will definitely conduct an in-depth investigation..."

"..."

Hearing this, Ren Bingda couldn't help but laugh out loud:

"According to the schedule, it will take nearly two years before the A380's first flight. We Chinese are not the British... nor the French. We are just communicating with our superiors. It won't take that long."

The unsigned investigation result was one of the biggest bargaining chips in his hand, so it was impossible for him to give it up so easily.

After that, he even did some reverse PUA:

"In addition, if you want my superiors to make a decision in a shorter time, perhaps you can consider providing some data in advance so that we can evaluate the cooperation..."

Originally, this sentence was just said casually.

Even Ren Bingda himself did not expect any positive response.

Luo Luo is not a Muggle.

Although the previous cooperation with China seemed to have allowed the latter to gain a lot of advantages, from a global perspective, they themselves did not suffer any loss.

He is definitely the kind of person who won't release the eagle until he sees the rabbit.

However, this time, he really miscalculated.

Without waiting for Watson or Bodie to respond, Eleanor spoke directly:

“In fact, we are planning to do just that.”

"Then..."

Ren Bingda subconsciously prepared to say a few more closing remarks and then leave.

But when the words were about to come out, I realized that the other party's response was completely different from what I expected.

"Ok?"

He forcibly pressed his half-raised buttocks back down.

Eleanor continued as if nothing had happened:

"As partners, I think both sides should have some basic trust, and I also hope that this cooperation can be settled as soon as possible."

"Of course, the relevant documents are still being sorted out, and it will take a few more days to get them out..."

Ren Bingda thought to himself that if I believed you, there must be something fishy going on. When you were doing the OEM for Trent 900, you were wary of us like thieves. Now you are suddenly acting so generous, there must be something fishy going on.

And he suddenly realized another problem.

This is Professor Eleanor. Although he looks inconspicuous, he seems to be a top figure on the same level as Watson, or at least he has no subordinate relationship with Watson.

You know, the latter is not only the supervisor of the Trent 900, but also the entire Trent series of engines.

What exactly does the cooperation that Eleanor refers to be is very intriguing.

Although Rolls-Royce's product line is complex, most of them have some historical evolution, or are simply old models obtained from Allison. It is impossible for them to undergo a drastic upgrade such as permanent magnet power generation.

Among the new products, apart from the trump card of the Trent series, there are thousands of potential production units...

That only leaves the military product line.

Thinking of this, he finally understood why the other party had said that the model could not be announced before.

This is probably not a commercial need of Rolls-Royce itself, but a requirement of Party A in the contract...

……

After seeing Ren Bingda off, Watson's expression changed instantly.

The atmosphere in the entire office also cooled down.

Bodie quickly raised his hand and quickly closed the door.

"Professor Elino, are you really sure... that you want to give out some of the data in advance?"

"what is the relationship?"

Eleanor shrugged, pretending to be completely indifferent:

"Anyway, the model we developed jointly with GE has become a backup, and the data has very limited value to us."

His answer surprised the other two:

“And GE…”

Bodie looked confused:

"Wait... aren't we talking about EJ200..."

"of course not."

Eleanor showed an expression that he couldn't bear to look at:

“It’s hard to even finish the EJ200 properly now, how can I use this radical new technology?”

Watson finally came to his senses:

"So...from the beginning, the model you were planning to cooperate with the Chinese on was the F136?"

Eleanor leaned back on the sofa, looking relaxed:

"Actually, it's not me who is going to look for it, but Director Tom Hartman."

“And strictly speaking, it’s not the F136, but the lift fan of the vertical take-off and landing version of the JSF project.”

"Their original plan was to completely use permanent magnet power generation equipment and magnetic bearings to replace traditional fulcrums, but later they found that this was too radical and could not guarantee the development cycle, so in the end only the fan used new technology to minimize system complexity and weight..."