Chapter 684: We really need a research team

If we want to cooperate in development, even if the technology developed is shared by both parties, we certainly cannot just push it to the numerical computing business department and be done with it.

Of course, in most cases, the same group of people will do the final work, but more attention must be paid to the reception specifications.

You can't just send out a salesperson and send him away.

But on the other hand, technological cooperation not only means sharing rights, but also means sharing responsibilities. Even taking into account the gap in R&D capabilities between the two companies, I am afraid that the Torch Group's side is bigger.

Therefore, it is not like the numerical calculation business, where you can start work just by getting a list of requirements.

Always need to know more about the actual situation.

This is true even if the other party is an enterprise under the Science and Technology Commission system.

Therefore, after much thought, Chang Haonan decided to take a slow approach first:

"Manager Cai, you should also know that our company has not had an in-depth understanding of the shipbuilding industry in the past. It would be fine if we just took on some ordinary business. However, the technical cooperation between the two companies has a great impact, and we certainly cannot make arbitrary decisions. Therefore, I will take this matter Let’s take a note for now, and we will send comrades from the office and technical department to have in-depth contact with you later, how about that?”

Cai Honggui originally discovered that the French GTT was no longer interested in the Gas-Transport system, so he came to Torch Group to see if there was a way to break the situation. Naturally, he knew that the other party was a company with Shanghai. It is impossible for a second-level state-owned enterprise on the same level as Dongchang to sign a contract with just a few words.

Although the four major military industrial corporations have completed the de-administrative reform (the aviation industry is still delayed for another year due to General Manager Chang's operation), de-administrativeization does not mean de-organization, and it is still subject to the jurisdiction and supervision of superiors. .

In other words, doing business between state-owned enterprises is often more troublesome than between private companies.

Being able to meet Chang Haonan in person this time and explain the whole matter clearly was beyond expectations.

He immediately nodded in agreement:

"What Mr. Chang said is reasonable, and we really need to be cautious about technical cooperation."

"After I go back this time, I will sort out the technical information related to the Gas-Transport system and LNG ship manufacturing, and then have someone send it over. In addition, if Mr. Chang wants to further inspect the situation of our factory, you are always welcome to visit us. guide……"

Compared with aviation manufacturing, shipbuilding is relatively less sensitive, except for some special products, such as nuclear submarines or floating nuclear power plants.

Therefore, in terms of technology patents, "protection in exchange for disclosure" has indeed been achieved to a certain extent.

Even if the Hudong factory doesn't take the initiative to provide relevant information about the Gas-Transport system, if Chang Haonan wants to check it, he can find it with a little effort.

It's just that if you don't purchase the authorization, you can't use it for profit.

Cai Honggui wants to give it now, but it doesn't count as leaking business secrets.

Of course, that's what it says, but LNG ships are such complex system engineering. The words "relevant technical information" sound easy to say. In fact, if it were converted into a physical form, it would probably have to be loaded on a truck, and it would have to be four in front and four in the back. Eight kind.

Now that the two parties have only had initial contact, it can indeed be seen that they are very sincere when others make such statements.

After all, even public content has unique value after being systematically organized.

Otherwise, there would be no such thing as open source network intelligence.

"You and I are on the same level in terms of organizational relationship, and we are not in the same system. It is still out of the question to come and provide guidance."

Chang Haonan has now passed the stage of feeling embarrassed or in awe of this kind of blowing and patting. He immediately waved his hand and replied:

"In addition, my personal schedule has been tight in the past month or two. I may ask the technical backbone below to make preliminary contacts, but I can wait until then to make specific decisions..."

"Anyway, I would like to thank Mr. Chang in advance and wish us smooth cooperation..."

"You're welcome……"

Although he only received a verbal commitment from Chang Haonan, when Cai Honggui left, his whole spirit became different.

Outside the Torch Group, a young man holding a windbreaker in his hand saw Cai Honggui coming out. He quickly stepped forward and put the clothes on the latter.

"Master, what are you..."

When he just came out of the conference room, he saw that Cai Honggui looked as if he had aged twenty years. However, only half an hour later, he seemed to be young again...

"I just talked with Mr. Chang from Torch Group."

With the help of his apprentice, Cai Honggui stuffed his arms into his sleeves and adjusted the collar of his coat.

He was a welder in his early years. Due to long-term work in high-salt, high-humidity and low-temperature environments, his arthritis was quite severe. Especially in winter, it was difficult to wear a coat.

After completing this series of actions, he took out his gloves from his pocket and put them on while continuing:

"Mr. Chang said that technicians will be sent to our factory to check the situation in a while. If there are no problems, you can consider working with us to continue the development of Gas-Transport system LNG ships!"

"Really?"

The disciple next to him looked happy when he heard the news, but it only lasted for a moment, and soon returned to his worried look:

"But... even if the Gas-Transport system is implemented, compared with the Technigaz system, loading the same volume of LNG requires a larger and heavier ship. It seems that it will still be difficult to compete with others..."

Cai Honggui almost rolled his eyes when he heard this, and raised his hand to hit his apprentice on the head:

"There is no way to achieve success in engineering in one step. Don't be too ambitious. If it weren't for the quality problems that a group of Japanese companies exposed last year, we wouldn't even have a chance to join the game now."

"To be able to stand on the same track as others now is something that we people didn't dare to think about in the past. Why do you still feel dissatisfied?"

"..."

After all, the apprentice was young and quick to react, and Cai Honggui didn't really mean to hit him, so he easily dodged it with a horizontal jump, then covered his head and said to his master:

"I mean, can we also consider using the Technigaz system to build ships?"

Cai Honggui's face froze, he lowered his head and hesitated for a moment, then shook his head:

"GTT Company itself is not involved in the ship production business, so it is not difficult to buy the patent of the Technigaz system, as long as it costs money."

"But the technical route of the cargo tank system is closely related to the structure, power and safety design of the entire ship. The Koreans came into contact with the Technigaz system several years before us, and now they have obtained many patents in these fields. If we change now If you pursue the technical route, you will definitely be restricted here..."

The words were said to this extent, and the apprentice naturally understood them——

GTT Company will sell the cargo tank patent to Hudong Shipyard. That is because everyone is at different positions in the industrial chain and they are working together to make money. It is just a big profit but a small one.

However, Samsung Shipbuilding and Hudong Shipbuilding are in the same ecological niche. Not to mention life and death, at least they are in a competitive relationship.

It is simply impossible to license your key patents to your major competitors.

Therefore, the path of the Technigaz system is basically impossible for China, which has not taken the lead.

"Then... we can only count on the Torch Group to cooperate with us?"

"This can only be done in a short period of time. To be fair, we have been accustomed to being a technology chaser in the past. In terms of core technology research and development, our level is indeed not as good as others..."

"But... in case there is nothing good that the Torch can do, after all, they seem to have never been exposed to shipbuilding before..."

"Well... that's what I said, but I heard from my colleagues at the Hangzhou Gear Factory that Mr. Chang had never been exposed to the machinery manufacturing industry before, but his first move was to take charge of Jiang Zhong's 7-ton forging press. It seems to be making progress. It went very smoothly..."

"..."

……

On the other side, after sending Cai Honggui out, Chang Haonan picked up the phone and contacted Liu Hongbo.

"Professor Liu, does our Numerical Computing Business Department still have any free manpower? I have a shipbuilding business cooperation that we have never had contact with before. I need a few people to understand the situation..."

He got straight to the point.

This question was asked directly to the other party. After a long period of silence, Liu Hongbo's bitter voice came from the other end of the phone:

"My junior leader, the orders for the Numerical Computing Business Department have been scheduled until March next year. We can't wait for one person to work as three people. How can we still have free manpower?"

"And since it is a business that I have not been exposed to before, it should be handed over to the R&D department first, right? In principle, our business department only deals with the application level..."

"hiss……"

Chang Haonan thought about it carefully and felt that it seemed reasonable.

He did let Liu Hongbo be in charge of the helicopter design business before, but that relied on Professor Liu's personal ability.

However, Torch Group's main business is program update and maintenance after all. The so-called R&D department is actually the original "National Key Laboratory of Numerical Simulation and Data Analysis", which has not even changed its name to this day.

The official version of the TORCH Multiphysics software has just been released. The lights are on 24 hours a day in the office over there. He doesn’t even need to make a call, so he knows that he is probably very busy...

"..."

Chang Haonan suddenly felt that he might really need a research group of his own...