Chapter 423: Xiaolong or Weilong?

By the way, there are now two production lines for J-11.

Although only a dozen or so have been delivered so far, production will begin next year at a rate of 24 aircraft per squadron per year.

If there is demand, and we continue to add production lines, we will soon be able to easily produce 100 aircraft per year.

It’s just that the cost of J-11 is too high, not only far exceeding J-7 and J-8, but even more than J-10.

That’s right, the J-10 is smaller than the J-11 and a single-engine fighter, and its cost is higher than the J-10.

The reason is simple. The smaller J-11 requires more precise components and stronger materials.

What's more, there are brand new avionics, firepower, and radar systems, which are almost all built with money.

Although the positioning is different, the J-16, which was derived from the F-11, has an excellent aerodynamic design, is the best combat aircraft ever, and has stable and instantaneous steering, all of which crush the J-10.

However, its thrust-to-weight ratio, range, maximum speed, indicated speed, ceiling and climb rate are not as good as those of the twin-engine J-10.

It can be said that each has its own advantages.

Therefore, the military has secretly conducted many confrontation experiments. It turned out that the multi-purpose J-11, which did not seem to be so good at fighting, shot down the J-10 designed for interception many times in close-range dogfights, which really shocked many people.

When Fang wanted to know the result, he didn't have any idea.

Nowadays, most people’s thinking is still stuck in the World War II mode of finding the target, approaching the target, and dogfighting.

But after being equipped with a phased array radar, the fighter's attack method becomes to detect the target remotely in advance, lock the target, launch missiles, confirm the results, and leave.

In other words, what will be compared in the future is the battlefield environment, and who has more early warning aircraft, more refueling aircraft, and more ground radars behind them, rather than everyone's focus on the roaring air-to-air missiles.

However, Fang Xiang could only do this matter gradually and subtly.

After all, the traditionalists still make up the majority, and everything will have to wait until the Gulf War in a few years.

As we all know, the Super 7 project is a fighter jet cooperation plan proposed by Pakistan when facing the military power of India.

The project was proposed in 88 and started all the way to FC-1\JF-17, which is the JF- project codenamed Blue Whale by NATO.

And not many people know now that Pakistan will soon have the F-16A\B sold to them by the United States.

After Pakistan acquired the F-16A\B, it lost interest in the Super 7, which almost caused the project to fail.

A year later, when Pakistan was preparing to purchase more F-16C\D, it was banned by the United States.

This made Pakistan think of the Super 7 again, but when they saw that the JF-16 was successfully developed and was about to be delivered, the United States lifted the embargo in order to stir up trouble and continued to sell F-10C\D. Pakistan finally realized the situation and purchased the JF- and J-C.

This makes Pakistan the only country in the world that owns both J-10 and F-16.

Therefore, this is why Fang Xiang thinks that instead of spending a lot of effort to develop a mediocre JF-20, it would be better to work hard on the J.

As for the J-10, a fighter jet that is outdated from birth, it is better to sell it to Pakistan.

“Price is only one factor. The main reason is that the Chinese think the J-10 is much more advanced than the J-8.

They haven’t even sold the J-8 yet, but they are selling the J-10. . .

So we deliberately set a high price for the J-10.”

The butcher smoked a cigarette and answered Fang Xiang's question.

"I heard you were working on the J-8II model?"

Fang Xiang flicked the ash off his cigarette and put the J-10 aside for now. In fact, it was not impossible to sell the J-8.

With the J-10, the J-8, a more backward model, has basically become more backward than the backward model before it has had time to upgrade.

“I was called to stop...

Although the J-10 is not as good as the J-11, it is still much stronger than the J-8.

Although costs have also gone up, it is clear that the military has discovered that quantity is not as important as quality, which is a key factor.

Including the J-8 orders, which have been drastically cut since last year. I heard that there are less than orders this year. "

Mr. Song also interjected at this time.

“Although the J-10 is expensive, it can actually form a good match with the J-11.

The number of J-7s in service now exceeds , and considering the current national security situation, the number has exceeded the limit.

The expectations for the J-8 were originally quite high, and it could meet the current national defense needs, but with the emergence of the J-10, basically no one is paying attention to it now.

I heard that the first batch of 8 J-A aircraft have begun to be converted into reconnaissance and training aircraft.

Last time I went to a meeting at the ministry, I heard that the orders for the J-10 are actually more than those for the J-11.”

As soon as Mr. Song finished speaking, Mr. Butcher continued.

"Of course, the cost of the J-10 is much lower than that of the J-11.

I think that in the future the J-10 may be put into service on a large scale and gradually replace the J-7.

Then a small number of J-11s were gradually improved and upgraded, becoming a sharp knife in the hands of the Air Force, which would be used only when necessary. "

After Mr. Song finished speaking, Mr. Butcher made a gesture as if he was stabbing someone with a dagger.

This made Fang Xiang and Song Gong laugh.

“A third generation, all-weather, single-engine, advanced multi-role light fighter.

It has medium and low altitude high subsonic maneuverability combat capability, a large range, combat radius and long airborne time, excellent short-range take-off and landing characteristics, and a strong weapon loading capacity.

It can be equipped with advanced missiles and a variety of advanced guided air-to-ground weapons.

Pakistan’s requirements are quite high. They want air superiority, multi-purpose, and most importantly, low cost.

It's the kind of thing where you want this and that.

What do you think? "

After Fang Xiang finished laughing, he looked through the information in his hand and made a summary.

“It’s quite difficult.

If they can really develop such a model, will it still be their turn?

There is a high probability that we will be overwhelmed by orders from the military.

Hahahahaha."

After Mr. Butcher and Mr. Song looked at each other, they laughed out loud again.

"Fortunately, they didn't know about invisibility. If they did, they would probably add another one."

Fang wanted to wait until they finished laughing before stabbing them again.

This immediately caused laughter again.

"By the way, have you ever tested the stealth effect of the J-11?"

After the office quieted down, Fang Xiang pinched his chin and thought of another thing.

If I remember correctly, the later F-16 seems to be a third-generation and a half aircraft that is not completely stealth.

The main reason is not that the United States is unwilling to deploy stealth coatings, but because of the structural defects of its fuselage. Even if stealth coatings are applied, it is impossible to achieve complete stealth.

"We have done so, and we believe that the J-11 mainly emphasizes its maneuverability and multi-purpose capabilities at medium and low altitudes.

Although complete invisibility is good, it is not really necessary.

It is enough to appear as a bird-sized area on the enemy's radar."

The butcher immediately pulled out a piece of information.

What is written above is about the J-11's stealth positioning.

"Then, have you ever considered building a completely stealth fighter?

As a dagger for kicking doors, you know, the J-11 can only do the job, but not very well. "

After Fang Xiang finished reading the information, he nodded in agreement.

Design flaws, model positioning, complex materials, and cost concerns are all factors that prevent the J-11 from becoming a stealth fighter.

Rather than wasting time on a mediocre and half-baked JF-17.

Calculating the time, now is actually a good time to start working on the J20 Vily Dragon.

After all, now is the time when we have money, materials, and technology to buy.

There is still more than a year before Huami turns against each other, so why not consider J20?

"Completely stealthy fighter?

I have thought about it before. We have discussed it and found that the current technical capabilities do not allow it to be done.

Professor Fang, are you going to take the lead?"

Butcher and Song were immediately beaming with joy.