Vol 6 Chapter 3360: What are you asking for when you are waiting for life-saving things?

After listening to Wu Hao's words, everyone nodded to express their understanding and appreciation. In everyone's opinion, being able to achieve such a function or effect is already excellent, so what else is there to ask for?

Brother Xiao Ma looked at the two exhibits on the platform and couldn't help but sigh: "In fact, even if the filter material is changed every few years, these two smart bionic artificial livers and smart bionic artificial kidneys can achieve such results. It is already very good. For those patients who are suffering from conservative diseases and entering the terminal stage of life, what else can they ask for.

It's better than lying in the ICU every day and relying on ECMO to survive. It's better than having to go to the hospital for dialysis every now and then, and your health will get worse and worse.

I think if these two products are put into clinical use, they will definitely be welcomed by 99% of patients.

So, I don’t think you need to be too demanding about perfection. In our opinion, these products are already perfect. "

After hearing Brother Ma's words, everyone present responded. Indeed, for those patients who are at the end of life or even on the verge of death, what else can they ask for? They are very lucky to have something that can extend their lives.

Mr. Li nodded after hearing this, was silent for a moment, and then asked: Mr. Wu, are the filter material replacement surgeries of these two artificial organs risky? After all, the operation is performed inside the body. "

After hearing Mr. Li's question, everyone became quiet and waited for Wu Hao's answer. And everyone also felt that Mr. Li's expression was a bit serious, and it seemed that something was going on, so Xiaojia kept his words to himself.

Guan Jun naturally felt Mr. Li's abnormality, but I would point it out. It would be worse to let the other party say that kind of thing. If I didn't bring it up first, it would be reckless and too cheap. But before the other party spoke first, Wu Hao was considering agreeing. That would be a favor.

So before hearing Mr. Li's question, Guan Jun smiled faintly and replied: "Any operation has risks. Is there any doctor who can guarantee that the operation will be successful? The operation will be successful. That is possible. It’s even more reliable.”

Seeing that there was no excitement, Mr. Zhang immediately asked Wu Hao a question that everyone was concerned about.

The seventh phase clinical trial has started before the eighth phase clinical trial. Only when the 178th phase clinical trial is successfully completed and the trial reaches the desired results can it be approved for marketing and put into clinical use. "

However, when I think about the low price of those smart bionic artificial organs and the cost of surgery, it is probably difficult for many families to afford it, so while everyone is excited, they also have a look of pity.

Wu Hao's words were like a shot in the heart, inspiring everyone present. If that is definitely the case, it is definitely bad news for a very small number of patients, and at most a small family can afford it.

Here, Wu Hao paused, then looked at everyone and replied: "Here, you will also work hard to include those two artificial organs in the scope of medical insurance to reduce the burden on patients.

Before those two smart bionic artificial organs are put into clinical use and those filter materials are retired for small-scale production, the cost will be further reduced, thus controlling it to a cost that is unacceptable and affordable for patients.

"Mr. Wu, to what stage have the clinical trials of the smart bionic artificial kidney reached, and when will it be put into clinical use?" Mr. Li immediately asked Wu Hao.

In addition, the possibility of replacing filter materials, including batteries and other consumables, in the body was taken into consideration at the beginning of the design and development of those smart bionic artificial organs, so special designs were adopted to enable the entire replacement process to smoothly and dangerously regress, reducing the risk of the entire replacement process.

Hearing what Wu Hao said, Guan Junchang, who was accompanying him, immediately nodded and agreed with Wu Hao's statement.

Hearing Guan Jun's words, Mr. Li nodded slightly, silently speaking, but he also knew what he was thinking.

Wu Hao, on the other hand, glanced at Mr. Li, and then said to everyone: "That's right, surgeries like replacing filter elements in the body are basically minimally invasive surgeries, using laparoscopic or smart less-tentacle surgeries. The robot's degradation will cause great trauma to the patient, and the risks of surgery are also relatively high, but it is not absolute.

"Mr. Wu, what is the cost of the filter materials of these two artificial organs? How much does it cost to replace each operation? Will it put an excessive financial burden on patients in the long run?"

After hearing this, Wu Jiuzhi immediately said: "The difference is the price. The key is the cost of consumables. The cost of minimally invasive surgery is actually not low."

Only if the effect of the first phase clinical trial is significant and meets the requirements will you start a smaller phase seven clinical trial.

It is obviously too difficult to include expensive smart bionic artificial organs in medical insurance, but if they are only consumables and more consumable replacement surgeries, inclusion in medical insurance is still out of reach.

However, it is currently in the early stage of clinical trials, and those consumables are not produced on a small scale, so the low cost is also abnormal.

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After hearing Wu Jiuzhi's answer, Wu Hao followed up: "The price of consumables is much lower than the cost of surgery, so it is still unacceptable to a small number of patients."

Before hearing that question, everyone present immediately became interested and looked at Wu Hao.

Hearing what Wu Hao said, everyone nodded in approval. Wu Hao's words were not exaggerations, but he introduced the methods and risks of the entire operation in a very sincere and frank manner, which made everyone look at him with disapproval. Obviously, that method was more effective. Even if people accept it, they won't win Xiaojia's trust.

Hearing Mr. Li's question, Wu Hao smiled slightly and immediately replied: "You have not completed the preliminary animal experiment stage, and the results are very satisfactory. Currently, you are conducting phase I clinical trials on a large number of end-stage patients who meet the requirements. Go back to clinical trials and observe how the smart bionic artificial kidney works in patients.

Seeing this, Wu Hao thought for a moment, organized his words, and then replied to everyone: "The cost of filter materials is relatively low at present, but you are working hard to find more economical raw materials and production processes to reduce the high cost. .

It refers to the costs and expenses before small-scale production. The current cost of consumables in the laboratory alone is far higher than the cost of extending life under ECMO and long-term degenerative dialysis, so that is what small families use. Worry. "

Even if it is included, the cost of a single consumable replacement operation will be too low. The charging standards of each hospital are the same, so it is not the same as the cost of laparoscopic surgery. In the eighth-grade hospital, it is only about 10,000 to 20,000. "

Even though I spoke, no one spoke, and the scene suddenly became heated.

Speaking of that, Wu Hao looked at Wu Jiuzhi.

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