Chapter 4275: yes and no

"Yes, have you ever thought about it, even if the middle and upper classes want to join forces, can it really be so fast? Even if Jizhou wanted to support the Taiwei, at least in the market, in restaurants, and at veterans' gatherings, we all heard I have heard that question a few years ago." Lu Su said urgently.

Don't say things like "If you don't keep secrets, you will lose your ministers; if you don't keep secrets, you will lose your status; if you don't keep secrets, you will lose your life." It is impossible for things like support, uprising, and connection that require a lot of people to complete. The so-called absolute confidentiality.

This kind of thing that requires many people to complete is basically united because of a certain common belief and common interests. During this process, many outsiders already knew it, but some people pretended not to know it. Some people just turn a blind eye.

At this time, Lu Su has already realized that Chen Xi is wrong. Chen Xi's attitude now is not that he is angry or wants to kill people, but that he is tired, destroy it, love it, I won't play with you, what do you want to do? Just do it yourself, this attitude is wrong.

Scolding, yelling, and clearly saying to clean up, this at least means that Chen Xi is just angry, but now this attitude, the two have known each other for more than ten years, Lu Su has realized that something is wrong, this is already the attitude of a passerby I'm looking at the problem, the friendship is about to break up.

Chen Xi was thoughtful when he heard the words. At this time, Chen Xi was already showing some intentions, but he could still listen to Lu Su's words, and the example Lu Su gave was very correct, at least he could really convince Chen Xi.

"It's impossible to hide it on such a large scale. Have you ever heard such a question in the market or in a wine shop?" Lu Su hurriedly said when he saw Chen Xi's thoughtful expression.

"That's true." Chen Xi was not stupid, and soon realized the problem.

When they were in Jizhou, Chen Xi and the others were not shocked at all when Liu Bei was supported, because they occasionally went to the old soldier's restaurant and heard the question - when will the Taiwei be the emperor? , ah, the Taiwei is also a clan, so he can be the emperor.

This kind of question is very normal among veterans. Even Liu Bei himself has heard it. Liu Bei and the veterans have debated on this issue, but of course they haven't.

So this matter itself has a basis of connection, but now Chen Xi is facing this problem, Chen Xi has basically never heard of it among the veterans.

Logically speaking, even if the military leaders of these ranks came up with this kind of idea, they should have communicated with each other at the beginning: "Brother, my neighbor Wang San followed Sun Bofu and sealed off an island, **** it, he It was not as good as Lao Tzu back then, and I don’t know where we will seal it.”

Faced with this kind of question, there are only two answers, one is "Fuck, you asked me this question, I really don't know, but I think, Taiwei and Chen Hou will definitely not lose us , What have we lost over the years?"

The other is "Fuck, your question has caught me, and it seems to be the same. After thinking about it carefully, there is no place to block it. I will go and ask us about it."

But after asking twice, it will stop, because a smart person of the same level will tell him directly, "Are you all brain-dead? Seal an island for you, can you build it like this?"

This will be forcibly suppressed, because this reason, combined with the reputation of Chen Xi and Liu Bei, is enough to convince everyone at this level.

Just like when Chen Xi and Liu Bei met Bi Lao Liu who just came back from Central Asia, Bi Lao Liu is a solid elite army dubo who can manage a team of hundreds of people, but if he builds a fief independently, Chen Xi's suggestion to Lao Liu is , build a village on the line.

Although the level of Lao Liu is low, the Lao Liu who participated in the Ganges War last year also survived to the twelfth rank of knighthood by virtue of his meritorious service as a scout. He is a proper middle-level backbone. It is the limit to build a large village with just enough people.

It's really easy to build a country. The prerequisite for the great families to build a country is that they are princes themselves, and they have built a team for hundreds of years.

Why can Liehou have fiefdoms, and why do Liehou need to buy their own retainers such as family ministers, concubines, door officials, Xima, pedestrians, etc., because Liehou and other titles are completely two levels.

Essentially speaking, Chen Xi did not consider the enfeoffment of these people. Another very important point is that regardless of

Whether it is according to Chen Xi's new version of the military merit system or the old version of the Qin and Han military merit system, there are no feudal states below the lieutenants.

Even if Jiangdong released the fiefs in Southeast Asia, it doesn't mean that the twelfth-level titles have fiefs, but that they are entrusted to a certain lieutenant, and then a certain lieutenant will rule, and then the lieutenant will hand it over to the lower rank. Someone in charge will take care of it.

This method is actually a variant of the former Liehou Houguo, except that the self-assigned family officials, concubine sons, family officials, Xima, pedestrians and other retainers have been changed into canonizations similar to those of the Spring and Autumn Period, allowing them to manage on their behalf. , to qualify for the bonus from it.

If you really want to say it, this is a new evolutionary version of the Jiangdong Qu system, which upgrades the core trilogy and capable people to be the retainers of Liehou

That is to say, purely from this point of view, the Jiangdong Qu system even has an advanced side. It can only be said that a system that can leave a mark in the annals of history always has some advantages that other systems cannot match. Otherwise, it will not be adopted.

But in any case, in essence, under the Marquis of Guannei, he is still not qualified to get involved in the fiefdom.

The canonization of the military merit system is salary, land, homestead, the number of servants that can be used, and the improvement of social status. Only when the nineteenth rank of the rank of the Marquis of Guannei will there be a qualitative change, and all the playing methods will be opened up to the rank of the rank of the 20th rank of the Marquis .

Because Chen Xi could see the mistakes made by the first emperor, he had overfulfilled his military merits, and he was able to open the private plunder certificate when he was a title of five or more titles.

Nine-level noble titles such as Kang Guang and Xia Zhu used pioneering documents to establish village-level feudal states in the Northeast. In fact, they were connected to the internal history of the book, and they could also get the support of some vassal states.

It's just a village-level closure of the country. To be honest, there is only so much support, so there is nothing to say.

Therefore, Chen Xi really never thought that the middle and upper classes would cause trouble to this extent. For Chen Xi, if there is any dissatisfaction, Chen Xi will also think about it if he directly speaks.

To be straightforward, if the army chief is really dissatisfied, he should inform Lu Su well, and then Lu Su would come over and say to Chen Xi, "Zi Chuan, the old people in our team think that we are not as good as those who followed Yuan Tan and Sun Ce before." those people."

Then give Chen Xi a few obvious examples. What Chen Xi will say, he will only say, "It's true, you wait, I can still make us suffer, get out of the way, and fix it right away."

However, Chen Xi was really disheartened about the Political Yuan, and Chen Xi realized that it was forcing the palace.

Chen Xi thinks, what did I do wrong to make trouble to the point where you force the palace? Is it because of insufficient benefits? Where is it not enough, the new version of the military merit system is not enough, or is it that the veterans' retirement pay is not enough, or is the pension for the veterans who died in battle not enough?

When you think I'm wrong, tell me in advance, where I'm wrong, I'll correct it first, if it doesn't work, I can study it later, what are you doing!

This is also the reason why Chen Xi feels that he is an outsider. You don’t communicate with me, and you force the palace directly. The benefits are not good. You say that the resettlement is not good. let me know.

If you don't say anything, but directly come to this set, Chen Xi is not going to blow up, but just doesn't want to do it anymore.

In fact, as far as Chen Xi is concerned, even if it is an illegal fiefdom, Chen Xi is already doing it, privately plundering the certificate, and building a village independently. Nine-level development documents. These are actually windows.

Of course, Chen Xi also knows that these things are somewhat unworthy for the military leaders. They are eager to try the islands in Southeast Asia, and Chen Xi can understand, but how many of them can not eat ready-made ones, just like what Sun Ce and Zhou Yu are doing now. We have been engaged in the construction of water conservancy projects for 20 years.

To be honest, it wasn't that Chen Xi looked down on it, but that these people went out independently and tried their best to establish a county in those places, and they couldn't even establish one.

This is why Chen Xi thinks it is good to divide Guishuang. The situation of this group of people is only suitable for eating off-the-shelf. If they really want to build independently, these middle and upper-level military leaders are only suitable to follow Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, and Yu Jin. Those who can barely form a team go out and rebuild.

In other cases, it is not realistic.

But now that there is such a commotion, what does it feel like to Chen Xi? It feels like this group of people think that if they go out alone, they can establish a fief the size of the Yang family and Er Cui.

Is it possible? Is it a question of the support given by Chen Xi?

To put it bluntly, it is impossible.

Seeing that Cai Mao can make a lot of money selling rice in Southeast Asia, he thinks that he should also make a lot of money, but who is Cai Mao targeting? In the army, the target is Yu Ban, not the 10th to 18th ranks represented by the upper middle class As for title, even if the navy is weaker and Jiangdong has problems, the one who can compare with Cai Mao is Zang Ba.

That's not one person, but a whole team.

The problem is that people who can be used to compete with Cai Mao will worry about these problems, no.

Guan Zhang and Zhao Huayu have never worried about the issue of follow-up canonization. Even if the world is really not divided enough, Liu Bei can cut them a fertile land by force. They have this confidence.

Lu Su's original words were, we believe, they may not believe.

The reason why these people stood behind Lu Su was because the people below asked because of the sense of crisis caused by the arrival of the wave of immortal veterans. They also felt that they needed a reassurance, so they asked for help, and they panicked if they really wanted to say anything. Do you believe it?

As for why Guan Zhangzhao didn’t ask Liu Bei? Can Guan Zhangzhao not know what the group of people under his command are thinking? What this group of people want is peace of mind, so compared to asking Liu Bei at the wine table, “Brother, brothers I'm confused, what reward do we have then."

Liu Bei gave an accurate answer, and then Guan Zhangzhao told the brothers under his command that it is better to let Lu Su ask Chen Xi directly, so that at least a red-headed document can be obtained, which can be compared to a question I asked at a dinner party, what is it like, what is it like, It makes everyone feel more at ease.

For so many years, even the common people have once again established their recognition of the country's reputation, not to mention the subordinates who followed Liu Bei to conquer the world, an official document with a stamped letter can best express their attitude.

As for why they didn't ask during the previous war, because Liu Bei and Chen Xi were both in the army during the war, and if the middle and upper-level collectively asked about this matter, it would really be forcing the palace.

In fact, none of the people at the top were worried. As long as they were willing to see Chen Xi and Liu Bei every day, they knew what they were, so there was nothing to worry about.

This is not the case at the middle and upper levels, so there is a certain degree of worry, so I implore my superiors to ask for help and give a letter of approval.

"I roughly understand." Chen Xi said with a dark face, "Didn't you know to be more tactful when you spoke?"

"At that time, what I said was not the result, because the first problem was support, the second problem was family connection, and the third problem was this." Lu Su said helplessly, "It's really not Forcing the palace, the third question is just a quasi-belief, if you want to be true three-in-one, even if you speed it up, it will be too late."

When Chen Xi heard the last soft voice, he looked at Lu Su with a much more gloomy expression. He had a new guess, but he just needed to confirm one thing.

In the Ganges area, the sense of crisis in Liu Bei’s upper-middle class actually comes from the fairy veterans brought by Liu Bei and Chen Xi. In the past, the middle-upper class who could be called military leaders didn’t have any special feelings. They didn’t think that Liu Bei and Chen Xi would Pit them, I didn't feel that there was nothing.

The Han Dynasty has a clear discharge system, unless there are some too special talent owners, they will retain them when they want to run away, and most veterans will not retain them when they retire.

Guan Yu's lieutenant Wang Fu retired early, but when he retired according to his rank, in addition to titles and rewards, as well as a large amount of money at one time, he was also assigned a captain.

The same is true for Jiang Gong, and he still carefully selected and arranged, and found a suitable marriage partner for him, and lived a happy life.

Zhang Fei's personal guards like Kang Yu and Xia Zhu, centurion commanders like Sun Er, Danyang veterans like Fu Ji, and Yanzhou veterans like Bi Lao Liu, Li Huan, and Zhao Zhen, etc., were all resettled.

Because of their different ranks and titles, and their respective requirements, the arrangements given are different. There are county captains with a maximum of two thousand shi, Qu Zhang with three to five hundred shi, and You Wei with a hundred shi like Wei Jun. They are all

is satisfied.

The simplest point is that if they are not satisfied, they will not chase Liu Bei all the way when he goes south.

Therefore, Chen Xi was very clear about his placement, and the treatment he gave was definitely not considered ill-treatment, but if he had to say that only having a fief was considered ill-treatment, then Chen Xi admitted that he had indeed treated the soldiers who thought so badly.

Fortunately, most of the soldiers didn't think about it. Chen Xi probably had this kind of thinking, and it probably started from the fifth year of Yuanfeng, because at the end of the fourth year of Yuanfeng, Zhou Yu killed Celian, and only then did he really occupy Southeast Asia. before that,

Franchising? Stop dreaming.

From the middle of the fifth year of Yuanfeng, Sun Ce on Jiangdong's side began to be entrusted with the fiefdom by a title of rank nine or above. However, as early as the previous year, after Chen Xi finished talking to Li You, Li You perfected the private plunder certificate and the development document. It can be said that Chen Xi gave soldiers who might have ideas a window. Because the Chang'an Political Council, represented by Chen Xi, opened the window.

Otherwise, enfeoffment below Liehou? And not even change the name, I'm afraid it's not courting death.

In fact, after Brahmis finished fighting, the Ganges side was discharged on a large scale. During this period, when people like Kang Li went to pursue the development of official documents, no one stopped them.

For many things, Chen Xi has always adopted a voluntary attitude. If you want to go, you can go, if you don't want to go, you don't go. Those who don't go have benefits, and those who go have other benefits.

As for the comparison with the aristocratic family, to be honest, except for those at the top, no one else would have such an idea at all.

The two sides are not on the same track at all. They can still be called a family these days, at least they are also the family of Liehou. Already belonged to dizziness.

Even in future generations, when everyone is equal, when making comparisons, they are still compared with people on the same track.

So Chen Xi never thought that what happened before would happen. In his opinion, those who have ideas should have left. Everyone has their own ambitions. The rest should believe that he and Liu Bei will not treat them badly.

It was precisely because of this that something like this happened that made Chen Xi extremely angry, even exceeding the limit of anger, and then became disheartened.

But Lu Su's explanation made Chen Xi come to his senses. Yes, those people really believed it, but Liu Bei suddenly pulled away more than 8,000 veterans who could almost completely take their place. What do those people think? Those people are not worried. up.

Of course, this is not the most important thing. The most important thing is that Lu Su's problem is three, not three in one!

"The middle and upper classes were not like this before, but they were stimulated by the new group of people." Lu Su said helplessly, "Anyone who sees them is not only not an important pillar, but also an object that can be replaced at any time. In this I was somewhat flustered at the time, after all, the army is talking about meritorious service, and the group of people who came back can really replace them.”

"You can't speak well?" Chen Xi yelled at Lu Su with a dark face, "Do you know what my first reaction was?"

"I was also angry at the time. My position as the third prince was gone. I lost all my hard work for more than ten years because of those aristocratic families. I was also angry. As you said back then, flies do not bite seamless eggs. But the cracks in the eggs are an environmental problem, and the flies should be hit!" Lu Su roared at Chen Xi.

At that time, Lu Su just looked calm and saw the reality clearly, but he was also annoyed, as he said, that was the position of the three princes, he said, it's gone.

Especially when he saw the official document he signed five years ago, Lu Su felt like Chen Zichuan, you are lofty, you are amazing, you know everything, but couldn't you help your brother earlier?

"You deserve it!" Chen Xi scolded, "If you don't collude with those people and form cliques for personal gain, wouldn't there be no such crap? If you don't have these crap, if you ask the third question carefully, will I be angry? Even if you can't Let’s just say, I don’t know how to draw cakes!”

"You knew it would be like this five years ago, okay. In my situation, I'd be damned if I could hide from it. You knew it a long time ago, otherwise you wouldn't have put that document in my place!" Lu Su had already figured out the internal logic a year ago, so he unceremoniously

Angrily said.

When I was young, I didn't understand why Chen Xi put the official documents in his place, but I still don't understand later. To put it bluntly, isn't it because the official documents are the bottom line, the final constraint?

"I expected it a long time ago? Yes, that's right. I admit it. I really knew it was true very early on, but won't you be a little bit more confident?" Chen Xi felt unusually angry at Lu Su's nonsense. , the voice was three points louder.

"I'm not up to it? I'm a three-father at the age of thirty-two. I was born as a powerful landlord, and I became Situ at the age of thirty-two with my ability. I'm still not up to it?" Lu Su also growled, "As for your question, are you Do you look down on yourself? You expected it, can I jump out?"

Chen Xi was stuck, because he was blocked by Lu Su's shield of attacking himself with his own spear. "No, I didn't think you couldn't stand it for five years!" Chen Xi said with a dark face.

"It's not five years. When you gave me the official document, you definitely noticed something! From what I know of you, you would never do such a thing without a trace. You definitely discovered something at that time and gave it to me. "Lu Su is not polite. He has reached this point, he must ask clearly, what's more, he has also reached this point, so what are you afraid of.

"I'm just taking precautions!" Chen Xi yelled loudly, but these words could not convince Lu Su, and Man Chong, who was in the cage not far away, looked at the two fighting **** from afar. You are lying, Chen Xi probably discovered something at that time.

"Forget it." Chen Xi pulled out a handful of thatch from Lu Su's cage, spread another layer of thatch for himself, and then sat down, "I admit that I did discover something at that time."

"It would have been better to say that earlier." Lu Su said with a sneer.

"However, I gave the official document to remind you, so as to prevent you from sinking deeper, but you are getting deeper and deeper." Chen Xi sighed and said, "I didn't expect that you would not be able to last five years. I thought I gave you Reminder, you can last at least twenty years of Yuanfeng, leave a good name, step down with me, even when Wenru told me, my first reaction was n

It's you. "

"If you don't go to Guishuang, but stay in Chang'an, it's probably okay." Hearing Chen Xi's words, Lu Su sighed and said, half of the last obsession in his heart dissipated.

"Sure enough, you took the initiative to speed up." Chen Xi said helplessly.

Although Chen Xi knew that Lu Su would definitely be infected by the family, but Lu Su was not a fool. If he was on guard, he would not be taken down so easily. Even if there was a problem with his grandmother, Lu Su could use many methods delay resolution.

Therefore, when Chen Xi found out that Lu Su was infected and assimilated, something was vaguely wrong, but after the three questions got mixed up, Chen Xi didn't bother to think about it, and directly blamed everything on his ignorance of people's hearts——I don't understand people's hearts, so I don't understand people's minds that the middle and upper classes should be so forced, so Zijing was infected and assimilated by the aristocratic family with an efficiency far exceeding the estimate.

"I can only say that it is as you expected. The good thing is that I still have the bottom line." Lu Su looked at Chen Xi and said.

"If you really achieve anger and hatred, you won't be sent to prison." Chen Xi looked at Lu Su, and finally sighed, "Is it worth it just to ask for such a result? I can't figure out whether I understand I still don’t understand!”

"You won't give me that chance, and it's only a year. Even if I choose to speed up, the family won't give you such an excuse. They just want to confirm your bottom line." Lu Su didn't agree. Shout like before.

"So you can live and yell at me, thanks to the rules I established." Chen Xi said to Lu Su angrily.

"Okay, I don't want to tell you anymore." Chen Xi glared at Lu Su, then got up, picked up the thatch and stuffed it in, "That's it."

"Have you got your mentality right?" Lu Su Guomao asked.

"I'm still angry, and even at this moment, I feel a little angry." Chen Xi suppressed his anger, and took a gouged look at Lu Su, "Leaving aside the first and second things, the third thing is all because of you. The question, abruptly passed the inquiry into a forced palace."

"It's my problem again?" Lu Su looked at Chen Xi

After confirming that Chen Xi came over normally, he sneered twice and said.

"It's not your problem, or my problem?" Chen Xi asked back.

"I told you not to go out. The eight thousand top veterans are basically there to protect you. Otherwise, the hundreds of unlucky veterans in Jizhou will go to the Ganges." Lu Su said with a sneer, "There are not so many veterans dispatched. , Is this the case for the middle and upper strata of the main force of the Ganges River?"

"The problem is the connection of Jizhou. Now think about it, isn't it because you are using public property for private use, causing the aristocratic family to push the boat?" Now all the causes and effects have actually been straightened out. Lu Su scolded Chen Xi, and Chen Xi could resist it. .

"But there are a lot of solutions to this problem. You have to go to the Ganges in person." Lu Su gritted his teeth and said. stupid?"

Half of those elites were used to protect Chen Xi, or even more than half of them.

"If I don't go to the Ganges, how can I effectively deal with the middle and lower reaches of the Ganges? I won't take a look at the Zhili area, so I can rest assured? You can rest assured?" Chen Xi said with a dark face.

"Wen Ru obviously still has a plan, and you didn't do anything when you went there." Lu Su unceremoniously turned over his old background. The official document was very good and enforceable, but Li You directly killed the special one. Killed, solved it in other ways, Chen Xi went and did nothing.

The only ones who can be counted as achievements are probably those unlucky children who flew the second eagle flag of Rome.

The question is when did Chen Xi need to participate in the battle?

"Who said I didn't do anything when I went there, at least I'm sure that the plan I made is okay, and I can also confirm that it's reasonable to seal off the Guishuang essence area." Chen Xi gritted his teeth and said.

"Now that I think about it, you should have figured it out after General Guan took Boluoyuansi and had an accurate comparison. Is it reasonable? It is not reasonable to say that it is unreasonable to entrust titles below the eighteenth level. I even doubt it." This is not the end at all." Lu Su said angrily.

"Shut up, I don't want to tell you anymore." Chen Xi glared at Lu Su angrily, talking nonsense, this is just a ready-made benefit in front of him, and there is a great future ahead.

"If you don't say it, don't say it." Lu Su sat down on the pile of straw. The previous refutation not only broke Chen Xi's heart, but also made Lu Su, who was originally determined to die, no longer have the idea of ​​suicide. ——This guy Chen Zichuan still needs me, and I may still have to live.

"Squat down, I'll trouble you later." Chen Xi flicked his sleeves and left, but compared to the state of mind when he came, Chen Xi has come to normal now, although he is still furious, wanting to catch a group of people to hammer , but that's all gone.

If it's not forced, that's fine. As long as it's not forced, it's just the worry caused by the sense of crisis. If you want a reason, it's just a total outbreak of a bunch of problems, Chen Xi can still accept it.

"Wei Wei Ruan, you actually came here to patrol?" Chen Xi felt a little strange when he came out of the prison and saw Gong Ruan here.

"After all, it was Situ and Ting Wei who had an accident. I have to pay for it. I suggest that we change to the Ye Ting Secret Prison. It is really bad to lock Ting Wei in the edict prison. This is not in line with the normal way of handling it." Ruan Gong suggested very sincerely.

"Yeting was shoveled. Ever since people were imprisoned, the eldest princess realized that she had to keep an eye on them, so she shoveled them when the palace was rebuilt." Chen Xi said angrily, "Watch Well, just don’t let anything happen, and it won’t last a few days.”

Ruan Gong felt much relieved when he heard that he would not be locked up for a few days.

Cong Ruan also knows the recent situation in Chang'an. As long as the batches of suicides are not blind and the heart is not bad, they will understand what is going on.

But this is not a solution at all, and now that Chen Xi made it clear that he would not be locked up for a few days, Communist Ruan immediately realized that this turmoil was coming to an end.

But after Chen Xi said this sentence, he added another sentence, "I don't know who will commit suicide tomorrow?"

Ruan Gong couldn't help being agitated, seeing Chen Xi's expression that seemed to be a smile but not a smile, and knew that his expression was a little too obvious.

The next day, when the news of Xun Shuang's critical illness came, Chen Xi sighed, "Let's just call it a day, let's call it a day.

It should be investigated in the future, but it will not be investigated for death, and it will not be enlarged. After Gou Shuang dies, it will be normalized. We can't let Chen Ji be critically ill tomorrow.

In fact, according to Chen Xi's state of mind today, even the former Chen Shang doesn't have to die, but at the national level, such a wave of suicides can be regarded as punishing the past and the future.

"Uncle Xun, don't worry, I won't bring personal emotions in the follow-up, and I won't expand it." When Chen Xi saw Xun Shuang for the last time, Gou Shuang held on to Chen Xi's wrist, and Chen Xi gave an accurate answer. answer.

When I came out of Xun's house, the atmosphere was much better than yesterday's.

Chen Xi greeted Han Qiong again, and then drove to the Political Yuan.